
James Kell from Scratchie and I recently caught up to chat about safety and organisational stuff.
Podcast: https://www.scratchie.com/post/ben-hutchinson-safety-paradox-conversation
Covered a bit of ground including my research on false safety in management systems and audits, incentives and more.
Was a cool chat but we had little background on what each other did. I felt a bit like the image below since neither James or I spent the 20 seconds to first check out each other’s profiles before we met.

Podcast: https://www.scratchie.com/post/ben-hutchinson-safety-paradox-conversation
